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Who can I talk to about this?

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You're speaking to the man.

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I suppose you won't believe me either, will you?

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Well, no, that's what they all say, but that's what we're here for.

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Well, does it matter how long ago it happened or what?

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Not really.

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Not really?

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Okay, this has been bothering us.

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Me and my friend for Christ, about a year and a half, almost two years.

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Okay, you're in Seattle, right?

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Right.

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Okay, about a year and a half, two years ago, there was something out of Pervin Lake.

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See, me and my friend was out there, you know, and we were driving, and then we took this road to the right, you know, going to this cliff, you know?

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Yes.

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And we stopped up there in Park, you know, and went to the bathroom.

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And it comes down like a falling star, you know?

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It's like a shooting star, it comes down real fast, you know?

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Bright star, then it stopped, but it was still bright, and I kept getting brighter, and then it started turning different colors, you know?

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Like a ball, you know, purple and green and all this shit, and it came right over the top of us, you know, and I took the time, you know?

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And it was 11 o'clock, 11 o'clock, almost exactly, 11 o'clock.

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And then I found myself scrunched down in the seat of the car, and when I woke up, it was two o'clock, and a friend of mine said,

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take a compass at the back of the car, and if radiation was there, something, it'll go haywire at the compass.

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And so I did it, and just, you know, just went spinning all, you know, just spinning all, you know, shit like that.

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Right.

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And it's been booked enough for a long time, and how many were involved?

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Two.

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Okay, do you remember the date on that?

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Oh, perhaps, hold on.

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What was the date?

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Was it?

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I don't know, it was around in August sometime, or June, June or August.

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1976, 75.

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75 or 74, one of the two, but then the next day in the Reno papers, it said, you have foals seen over sparks.

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Uh-huh.

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That's what it said.

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But the thing is that we lost two hours, and we wasn't drinking or nothing.

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It was just like a flash, you know, and two hours was gone, bar like that, like nothing.

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You were both?

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In the car, it was a car, it was a convertible.

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Okay, now you were both, so what I mean is you both finally came to, later, you were both there through this whole thing?

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Yes.

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Uh-huh.

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But it was like, it come down like a shooting star, and it stopped in the first flash, and there's a green, and purple, and orange, and yellow colors, you know.

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Right.

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It was right over the top of the car, and I'm sitting here, oh shit, I was scared to death, man.

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I was down at the bottom of the car as far as I could get, you know, inside, and we locked up the car, you know, and everything.

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But when we woke up, the car was, the door was unlocked, and it was two hours later.

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And, uh, shit, this has been about a year and a half, two years ago, and it's really been bothering me.

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Okay, what prompted you to report it now?

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Uh-huh.

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I don't know, something just hit me, I don't know what it was, but it just hit me, report this, you know, something funny here, you know, something like, I don't know what the hell it was, but it's really freaky, I don't know what the hell to say.

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What physical characteristics or problems did you have after this?

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Um, we got a rash, kinda. You know, uh, bumps and stuff on our arms.

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Uh-huh.

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You know, it's a, it's got a rash, kinda bumpy, wasn't it?

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You know, it's like goosebumps. You know, like goosebumps when you get cold, you know, those bumps, you know.

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It's like, but it stayed, you know, and it was real bumpy on our arms and stuff afterwards, like that.

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Okay.

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And it was, it was the freakiest thing I've ever seen in my life, I couldn't believe it. You know, this is 30 miles out of town, you know, at Pyramid Lake.

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Pyramid Lake?

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Yeah. And then, actually, in the paper, it said, uh, you have both, you know, the sparks, you know.

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Uh-huh.

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And, uh, the thing when we started leaving, you know, afterwards, after we woke up, uh, it was, uh, going alongside of the mountains.

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A great big bright thing, you know, we thought it was a helicopter or something, you know, afterwards, cause we, you know, we woke up, thought, oh, it was a helicopter airplane, you know.

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But it wasn't, cause it was dodging the mountains and going right over them, you know, real fast, like, it was really weird.

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Okay, you know, what, uh, what time did you wake up on that?

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Uh, about, hmm, about 1.32 o'clock, something like that.

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And we've seen it at about 11.

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Okay.

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Would you be willing to talk to an investigator on this?

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Yes, I would.

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Okay. Have you, uh, any knowledge of the subject of UFOs?

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Um, just that they, uh, suppose come from outer space, that's about it.

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I don't know everything else to say about it, I don't know anything, you know.

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I don't know anything about it.

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Yeah.

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I see movies, but, uh, I guess I'm too realistic.

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Okay, where did you get our number?

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Huh?

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Where did you get our number?

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Uh, first, it's a moment.

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I called, uh, the atmosphere and the sanatorium here in Reno.

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They gave me the Reno airport, the Reno airport gave me, uh, somewhere else.

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And, uh, the operator, the operator gave me Seattle, Washington.

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So I've been there, and I guess they got you.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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Okay, well, we'll see if we can't follow up on this thing.

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Okay.

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I suppose there are a bunch of hopes, is there?

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Well, all depends on.

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But you know, it was the funniest thing.

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It was 11 o'clock, and then it was like nothing ever happened, and we woke up at 2 o'clock,

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or 1.32 o'clock, or something around there, and, uh, it was just like a day, and I was

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like, it was before, just like nothing ever happened.

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But they stayed there, and they dried out, like, it was really funny.

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How long did that last?

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About two weeks.

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It was, I don't know, it was just kind of funny, you know, we see nothing, and we got, you know,

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it was like, we just went to sleep, then we woke up, that's what it was like.

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Then we woke up, and we took off real fast, you know, and this big, great, big bright light

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was falling over the mountains, you know, and we was driving down the road, you know,

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and, but you know, on the way out, we lost the road we were supposed to take.

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It was so funny.

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He was sure he was on the right road, but then it went to some other road or something,

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I don't know what it was, but it was just tripped out, I couldn't believe it, but it was funny as hell.

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And we didn't know where and how it was at, and we never had nothing to drink at all either.

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Believe me, we got something to drink afterwards, so I'll tell you that, Jesus.

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How many other people have you told the story to?

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About two, but they laughed and said, oh yeah, you drinking and drinking and all this stuff,

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and we told them we hadn't had anything to drink at all, and they go, oh yeah, sure, and all this shit.

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You know, they just laughed about it, it was so funny, you know, they just make believe in our dreams,

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but you know, we both had the same dream, of course, you know.

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How often have you dreamt about it?

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How long?

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How often?

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About six times since then.

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I've dreamed about it, but you know, I've seen that movie too about that woman, that man getting taken,

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but I've seen that once, you know, but I've never dreamt about that,

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but I've dreamed about like in the car there, you know, on the desert, it was in the desert, you know,

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and the thing was, it was stopped over the top of us, it was just standing in mid-air, you know,

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and they come down and they open the door, but our doors was locked,

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but they opened the door and I don't know how they could have, because it was locked.

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I don't know, it was just freaked out or something, I don't know,

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but I never had nothing to drink or anything.

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You know, not one of those heads is still up there.

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Right.

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Right.

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No, but seriously, I couldn't believe this, but it's been bothering me for a long, long time,

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and it has really been bothering me.

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I dream about, one night I dreamt about somebody's show, like on that movie about a map, you know,

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but except I've seen in my dream about planets and where they was, you know, and all this stuff,

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and I dreamt I knew right where it was at, and I woke up and I couldn't find it, you know,

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like on one of our maps, or Star Maps or something, you know,

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and I dreamed I knew right where they was living at, but then I couldn't find it when I woke up.

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I guess just unconsciously I could find it, but I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, Christ.

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Okay, what do you want us to do about it?

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I don't really know, I just want to tell you about it, Christ, it's so weird.

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You want to get yourself hypnotized?

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Do what?

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Do you want me hypnotized?

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Huh?

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That's one way of bringing out all the facts, find out what happened.

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You think I have to work?

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I must work for others.

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I don't know anything I'm going to bring about, but it's bothering me.

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It keeps coming in my head for some reason.

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I keep seeing me holding the compass against the back end of the car, you know, spinning, you know, like wild, you know,

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really spinning and stuff, I don't know, it just, I don't know.

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I don't know, it's just something else, I can't believe it, myself.

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And one time I was in the backyard all by myself one night, about three o'clock in the morning,

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I was just seeing this thing shoot up in the sky, really super fast.

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It looked like a banana going straight up, you know, in the air.

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Christ, but then I figured out, you know, because I've been reading these books about it.

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If you were to turn it on its flat side, it would have been like a flying saucer, it looked like a chicken brooder.

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That's what it looks like.

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That's what I wanted, like that whiz in that night.

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When I was hovering over the top of us, it looked like a chicken brooder kind of.

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Those three little things on the bottom of it.

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I couldn't believe it, it was just something else.

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It wasn't that big though, it was kind of small.

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It was really kind of small.

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Okay, well I got all the information.

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I want somebody to come down here and talk to you.

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Do you?

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Well, except you.

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Do you think it's worth it?

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Well, if you've had an experience, I think it's worth digging into it and finding out what happened.

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Yes, I have had, and I do think it's worth digging into.

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I'd like to get it out, because sometimes I can't sleep.

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You know, I dream about it, and it's really weird.

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It is really weird.

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Well, do you want me to refer somebody to you to talk to?

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Yes, I would like that.

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Okay, we'll do that.

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You think they'll come down and see me or something or what?

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I'm sure they'll get in contact with you.

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Do you have my address?

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Okay.

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Okay, I'll notify one of the people and they'll contact you.

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Okay.

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Alright.

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Thanks a lot.

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Thank you for calling.

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Okay, bye-bye.